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Witches and Wine | Tarot and Zen: How to Become Fearless – Interview with Camelia Elias – Part 1 of 2

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I talk to Camelia Elias about about her philosophy on how to divine with cards with the utter clarity and fearlessness of a samurai. This is part 1 of 2 – next is the practical applications!

**TIMESTAMPS**
3:16 Using tarot as a cultural text
3:38 How tarot has infiltrated niches in modern life
4:13 How marginalized groups find self-discovery in tarot
4:57 “Play” and storytelling with tarot cards
5:42 How housewives in 1950s and 1960s used tarot as self-liberation
6:05 The Trumps/Major Arcana as archetypes
7:17 Zen ways of looking at cards
8:45 What will we see in cards if we don’t cling to meaning?
9:19 How non-clinging helps Camelia when she looks at cards
9:50 What we see vs. what we would like to see
10:45 How to question the premise of the original question
11:15 The conscious/unconscious intentions behind questions
11:48 How to question one’s own premise when analyzing the cards
12:41 Checking in with one’s own fearlessness
13:50 Life as a symbolic act – and how tarot plays into that
14:55 Yes – life is about symbols. But the symbols mean…?
15:24 The crucial question that interests Camelia
16:27 How tarot helps us embody clarity and fearlessness
17:36 When nothing has meaning, what questions naturally arise
18:14 How to enjoy “meanings” without believing them
19:15 Tarot as disruptor of habits and patterns
19:50 Look, pay attention, disrupt

‘Photo of Dark Day’s Tarot taken by The House of Twigs and our Intuitive Tarot Course’

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Chaweon Koo is a Korean-American currently living in Seoul, Korea. She is a witch, vlogger, and foodie.

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Chaweon Koo is a Korean-American currently living in Seoul, Korea. She is a witch, vlogger, and foodie.
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